Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Advice fail? Me? Never.



So I open my mouth and make a silly statement.
I find Worldbuilding for short stories effortless.
And I get called on it (twice).

Hee hee.
And here I thought nobody paid any attention.
I think that my statement (which was meant as a joke on my laziness when worldbuilding) also illustrates one view of writing fiction. Write first, fix later and only if it needs fixing. I'm not saying that it is a superior view over others, just that it exists.

A few weeks ago I read an interesting Mind Meld Discussion over at SFSignal (seems all I do is read their Mind Melds) where they asked authors for the best advice they've received on writing.

More Below/Beyond the Link...

I've actually linked to this Mind Meld before. Proving just how full of info those Mind Melds are.

One of the answers came from Author John C. Wright and he discussed advice given by Robert Heinlein. I really want to include John C. Wright's answer in full but I don't think that's fair to SFSignal - so go there and read the whole Mind Meld. In the meantime here's a couple of the important bits from Wright:


Heinlein's rules for writing were professional and simple. "1) You must write. 2) You must finish what you write. 3) You must not rewrite unless to editorial demand. 4) You must mail your story to an editor who will pay you money. 5) You must keep it in the mail until someone buys it."

Rule number 1 and 2 are paramount and cannot be over-praised. The Dean of SF is exactly right. Rule 4 and 5 are paramount and cannot be over-emphasized. The Dean of SF speaks words of wisdom more precious than gold, more to be treasured than refined gold.

Rule 3 is just bad advice.

--snip--

Now, on the other hand, Heinlein not only sold these books, but won plaudits and awards for them, so take my caution with a grain of salt. On the gripping hand, A.E. van Vogt wrote tightly-plotting thrillers of cosmic wonder without a wasted scene and barely a wasted word; J.R.R. Tolkien rewrote and rewrote until magic shines from his pages.

Obey Heinlein's rule number 3 if and only if you have Heinlein's knack at charming characterization and if and only if you find a market for meandering, plotless, charm-driven stories.

Don't fall into the trap of rewriting if it means you cannot finish your work. That is a fine rule.


I like John C. Wrights reinterpretation of the Heinlein Rule 3. I edited out a chunk of his answer and again I encourage you to read the complete answer and see his justification for disagreeing with Heinlein. (Wright's is the 8th down the page)

The reality is that Heinlein was writing in a different time and what worked for him doesn't work in a more mature Speculative Fiction Market. I say more mature because our expectations are higher, we've been raised on a solid foundation of character and plot driven stories that make sense (worldbuilding!) and push the boundaries of literature even. Do I need to make a list ? (Simmons' "Hyperion", Atwood's "Handmaids Tale", Brin's "Earth", to start)

My personal opinion of Heinlein (formed when I was a judgemental youth) was that his early work was fantastic and he went crazy later when he was writing the big stuff ("Number of the Beast", "Cat Who Walks Through Walls"). Now I know that he just didn't edit.

Lesson learnt - bad editing and world building can make people think you are crazy. (Perhaps that explains the failure of my writing group to meet last week. ;)



4 comments:

KSHayes513 said...

I clicked on the Mind Meld link expecting a few choice word bites, and found whole essays! Sheesh, it will take me an hour to read this, and years to digest. For the record, I like best Leonard's 10 rules, and the short quote that goes something like "get it down now, fix it later"
Thanks, AC!
BTW, is there a way you can make links open in a different tab? That way we don't have to leave your blog to check out something cool you've mentioned.

AC said...

There is a way to make links open in new Windows (also Tabs if the Users Firefox is setup correctly) using a depreciated HTML tag that is being phased out of the HTML Standard.

Why is that tag being phased out? Because the general User consensus is that it's *rude* to *force* things to open in new windows. The accepted practise is for Users to choose where links open (ie: Right-Click, Open in New Tab).

So thanks for the question and implied praise of my content. I don't think I'm going to start to force things to open in new windows/tabs. What I will do is start putting a note next to some of my links that reads: "Right Click - Open in New...Big Content"

AC said...

So I now have a little tag that appears when you hover over a big content link (a link to a page where I think there's a lot too read).
The Tag basically says R-Click to open in a new window.

I'm not sure how my previous comment on this reads - tonally so to speak. I didn't mean for it to seem critical of the suggestion, so I hope it didn't appear that way. I really put a lot of thought into what would be the best solution to this. It is a good suggestion and I did a fair bit of reading and that led to a surprising revelation on netiquette to me. The idea that forcing where a page opens in a browser is seen as rude.

When I thought about it I had to agree that in general it is annoying, though there are specific cases where I don't mind. I suspect that I could use it sparingly enough that I probably don't piss people off.
Ultimately however that tag is being removed from the HTML standard, so even if I did force windows to open in new tabs it would eventually stop working.

Now back on topic to the Mind Meld, I find the Mind Melds to be an incredible resource. The nice thing about authors is they are generally willing to share what they know, and a Mind Meld is a fantastic forum for that. A forum with the beauty of being archived on the web ;)

Joshua Scheer said...

Good content here. I apologize for misunderstanding your comment on effortless world building.

My jaw dropped when I saw that Heinlein opposed re-writing. I'm almost finished with a longer short story first draft (so many adjectives!) and I'm thinking about rewriting the whole thing to change POV. I envy anyone who can go without ever rewriting.